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#1 TeddieXRuxpin

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 01:08 AM

I have started to notice the two different coat types when it comes to Shih Tzus. There seems to be a smooth, silky coat and then a more fluffy, airy coat with under fluff.

When Teddie's hair started to grow I thought as it got longer it would pull it straight and it would become silky, but it's not looking that way. His hair is just getting more and more fluffy.

My question is is there really two coat types or does the fluff go away? Most of the Shih Tzu's with the grown out coat have the sily texture and while they do have matting they don't have as much. So how worth it is it to keep growing Teds coat out?

I think I remember Gingerbreads mommmy said she keeps his hair in a puppy cut so he doesn't get matted. And I'm starting to see the reasoning behind it all. Every day I'm taking a matt off of Teddie and it's pretty old. :chickendance:

I wanted some input because while I love his coat and have been working on growing his hair out for the last six months how pretty is he really going to be with long hair if he's just a huge fluff?

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:54 AM

Yup, it's Gingerbread that has the cottony coat. :) It's not correct for a Shih Tzu... it should be silky and lay down nicely instead of poofing out. lol His hair has always been this way and at 2 1/2 years old I don't think it's changing. I've tried so many different types of products and I'm definitely brushing him out correctly because I've worked as an assistant groomer. If his hair gets longer than about an inch, it starts to mat like crazy, and I mean about 45 minute daily brushouts/dematting. :dede: It's not fair to put him through that and I don't enjoy it either. So a puppycut is definitely the way to go and I'd recommend the same for other dogs with the same coat type. :chickendance:

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:31 AM

Really?

That bums me out! Teddie's coat isn't that bad and he gets brushed through out the day and then a good amount of time before bed and then again durning the day and I don't really mind that. He has kind of a half and half coat. His head is pretty silky, but his back and butt are super fluffy.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:01 AM

Eve and JoJo have the thick, cottony undercoat and when they were in a long coat it was straight and flowing, soo prettty. Choco has a more smooth silky undercoat (hence his fur being like butter, literally). His top coat when he was full coated was silky and smooth and gorgeous.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:36 AM

We just finish the blowing coat episode and his coat looks like this photo but a little thinner because he blew hisunder coat which I can already see it coming back in, Harley has straight soft silky from head to almost bottom and then it gets fluffy and that is why I call him fluff butt. Look at this pic and you can see what I mean.

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This after he fininsh blowing coat.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:36 AM

Sorry I double posted .

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:03 AM

I've been very curious since being on this board about "blowing coat". You would think I know this since I have two other Shih Tzu's but I don't understand what that means??? I'm amazed at Kylie's hair. Her hair is about 6 to 7 inches long and it is so silky smooth. I haven't even noticed it matting which amazes. (She's my new little one).



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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:12 AM

Blowing coat means they shedd or in the shih tzu's case they lose their puppy undercoat.

Edited by Tam, 16 November 2007 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:26 AM

I also notice this too. Leo has that "cottony" coat which after brushing him, he looks a mess again after 5min. It doesn't lay down just sticks out. I also keep him short.
I'm hoping Rogan has the silky coat.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:55 AM

Does this happen at any particular age? I noticed that although Kylie's hair is very silky smooth, her little pants in the back of her legs are very fuzzy looking...I guess that's just the puppy hair.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:58 AM

It happens between 8 months and 12 months.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:03 PM

It took 2 years before mine got to the more or less tangle free stage. It still gets knots ( usually from scratching ) but nothing like the fluffy undercoat matting.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:08 PM

Your Girls are beautiful!! WOW !!

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:32 PM

Eve and JoJo have the thick, cottony undercoat and when they were in a long coat it was straight and flowing, soo prettty. Choco has a more smooth silky undercoat (hence his fur being like butter, literally). His top coat when he was full coated was silky and smooth and gorgeous.


So really I have to see what his coat is going to do once it has grown out a ways..? Here is a picture of Teddie shortly after he is fully groomed.
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But that only lasts so many hours. When I bursh him our and blow him dry while combing him he looks all nice and five minutes later..he looks like a rag doll. :sigh:

How old is Teddie?


He turned 2 years on Oct 31. of this year.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:58 PM

Thats how mine are too after a groom all nice and beautiful, for about 5min! :head_hurts_kr: Mine are all ruffians!

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 08:58 PM

I guess it depends on the parents. Trudy has heavy, thick hair. Really easy to deal with. Her hair is like mine. Regular hair, not fur. As long as I bathe and condition weekly and brush and comb daily, she doesn't get mats.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:04 PM

Sally, you're so lucky that Trudy has silky "people" hair. Gingerbread has something in between that and fur. It's hard to describe, but it's kind of like silky cotton. Unfortunately it seems to grow out instead of down lol and mats easily. Btw, I LOVE Trudy's Mu*Shu collar! It looks so cute on her! :head_hurts_kr: I looked into getting the light green one for Gingerbread, but ended up getting one from Petsmart instead, because that's our budget right now.

TeddiexRuxpin, it sounds like your guy doesn't have that bad of a coat and since you don't mind brushing him a lot, that's great!! :(

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:18 PM

Thanks. I got it at a pet boutique and I love it. SOFT buttery leather. She has a matching address tag.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:22 PM

I guess it depends on the parents. Trudy has heavy, thick hair. Really easy to deal with. Her hair is like mine. Regular hair, not fur. As long as I bathe and condition weekly and brush and comb daily, she doesn't get mats.

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Do you mind me asking a few questions?

Bathing her weekly what shampoo do you use to keep her skin from drying out. TEddie gets a bath every 2-3 weeks depending on how dirty he is.

And also when bathing her so much what do you use for flea treatment? Washing so much I'd think would effect it.

She is a beauty!

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 12:09 AM

Bathing and conditioning weekly keeps the hair clean and easy to brush. I use Solid Gold products. Gentle. Gentle produsts will not dry skin. The gI wash her feet after every walk too. Keeps her clean and we take shoes off when we come in to keep the floors clean.

We don't have fleas, but she is on Interceptor and Frontline. Baths are fine.

Bathing is great for allergies also. Just have to get the right products. Each dog is different.




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